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Christmas is Starting

Posted by david

Hi all, this is that wonderful time of the year. In RL I am having a great time, ready get 2 gifts, one is a viewmaster with a set of disks of the book: “where the while things are” the other is some beautiful animals brand Schleich, this lithe animals are of such realism and quality that they are more like sculptures, I get a dog and a white tiger, but they have dragons, and knights and lots of cool stuff. I hope I can get some more of this things. The sad thing is that i was no able to get a chess set of pirates of the caribbean, it looks so cool and is 8 American dollars, so maybe from now to Christmas i can manage to get it.

Let me show you pictures, the things i get and the one I want:


Schleich animals, look for this brand they have great products


The chess set i wanna get


Today I had some friends to come to my house and helped me to build up the Christmas tree, we put some ligths on, and balls of many colors and little bells, and some little boxes of gifts, they are decoration, we open one and they don’t have nothing inside, some like Cristal figures, and some pine seeds, and toys (but no my dog and and my tiger… maybe I put them laters) , going to get some candy to put on the tree to. And I put a big star on top of the tree, we took lots of pictures and ate sweet potato pie and we watch a movie: “the Polar Express”. So we had lots of fun. And my friends wrote letters to the old man in the red pajama… what is his name??? lol i need to write down my letter too.

I have an idea of what I want for Christmas, that all the family is together, me, dad Randy, dad Dom, Adz and Kaz, and we have snow, and we have the lake turn into ice so can sky on it, and I don’t know about toys… some low prim teddy bear, more masks, a costume of wall-e, a jumping ball and many cool games and toys.

Hugs all.


Go Goat Go!!!

Posted by david

I was playing some games online and find a very interesting game in the Global Gang website. IT is about a kid in Kenya, and the adventures he had with a goat. The game is produced for the cristian aids, and the general idea is to teach us how much a goat can help a family in need in Kenya, so we are aware about their needs and their life stile and how we can help them. I’m just having fun with a game that is silly, and that is what this review is about, and maybe someone can feel inspire to send a goat to Kenya or to pet a goat in your own home… so lest see how is it like to spend your second life with a goat :)



Firts They receive the goat as a gift, someone sended it to their house to help them, Lest name the goat Lucky.


So after all this intro, we start with the firts game, what is a version of Simon, but instead of follow the patrons of colors you follow the patrons of tits you have to pull in order to milk the goat. Yes! I say milk the goat, goats are great pets that can give you milk for the breakfast, like a cow but way smaller.


The only problem about goats is that they eat everything, and i mean everything, that is why they are known as reciclyng machines, off course that is a problem when it starts to eat your furniture, or your toys, or even your pants.


I know some of you, the nudist ones, are thinking right now that a goat should be a very great excuse for being naked around SL, and maybe are thinking to tell to those Lindens, if they ban you, that you didn’t have your pants on couse a goat eat them. Like the kid in the picture, have to go to school and maybe the teacher is not going to believe that a goat ate his pants, his friends are going to have fun of him and think that he is silly. And that is the big problem about goats,  see?. Or maybe no, maybe there is another problem about goats, and it is when they decide to return your pants, as Trodden would say, from the other end, you know one end is the head, where the pants enter and the other end is… well where the pants come out.


Well lest face it, you come back from school and find out that your goat poo out your pants all over the place, but you can’t hate the goat couse it plays with you, is cool and give you milk. Now is time to pick up the poo.


But picking up poo doesn’t have to be really bad thing to do, you know with some imagination you can pretend you are playing a game, lest say… uhhhhh Packman, you go all around the place picking up poo, and the flys are gonna be like the gosth, and the amount of milk you were able to collect is like your energy to collect poo, so lest play.


Well, after you get tired with all that collecting poo, is time to disposal that poo, but poo have lost off nutrients a plant can use to grow up, goat poo is like the food of the plants, and plants are like the food of the humans, and human pants are like the food of the goat, so you see the circle of live?, well, before we were collecting poo, now we need to spread poo all over the place. To be more especific where the plants are. And this is another game.


This time is a maze, the little plants come out of the ground so we need to hurry with the poo or the plant will die, if we are on time the plant will grow up strong and Delicious.


The trick here are to spread the ones that come closer to the pile firts, and spread the most you can, couse after sunset you can’t spread no more, it is too dark.


And that bring us to the end of the game, we learned that a goat is very usefull pet that recycled our trash, give us milk and poo, and eat our pants.

Wanna play now? wanna help now?



The best songs ever

Posted by david

Talking with Trodden how much he hate list of song, I have decide to make another one. Just to tease him, or maybe He likes this one better than all the others He hates. Also I have found this a good way to let other know me better.

So here the top 10

1. Carmina Burana – Carl Orff
2. Concerto pour deux voix – Jean Baptiste & Clémence
3. Speechless – Michael jackson
4. voca me – Libera
5. Paradise – Tesla
6. Time To Say Goodbye – Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman
7. Wild World – Cat Steven
8. You Don’t You Won’t – Billy gilman
9. The Shadow Of Your Smile – Barbra Streisand
10. The Power Of Goodbye – Maddona

The complete 100 places here:

Form 1 to 50    —–   from 51 to 100

Trodden, hope you enjoy this 😛

And this is a bonus extra, Just for people who hate lists, my favorite 10 color:

1. Blue
2. Orange
3. Black
4. Red
5. Alpha
6. White
7. Yellow
9. Purple
10. Green




Posted by david

I have found a great place call the Nemo Island, where is a Goonies theme place, very neat builded for a kid named Loki, probably you never hear before about this kid and this place, however Loki is a cool kid and have a great place.

So I was exploring arround this new place, where you can find, also, a Max costume, you probably have never see before. and have secret caves and stuff. So i took some pictures in this new place,  and going to comment them :)


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This is me entering one of the secret caves, notice the Max costume, I done some few mods to the original one. Still looking cool. I hope one of you kids play this Wild Things movie in SL, becouse i can’t go see it in RL.

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I found this thing inside the cave, now well, it was some message about a secret password or something, i guess it was for getting inside this thing, however, I manage to get inside without any password, can’t drive it tho.

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This is some kind of Goonie fort to protect against pirates.

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This is the most difficult picture I have take in SL. The AV just can’t stop looking at the sides, the flag was going crazy with the wing and I have to shoot the 2 cannons and take the picture at the same time.  So ones I set the camera in the position I wanted it, i Just have to Wait for the wind to put the flag in place, then I had to touch the two cannons, and hit

CRT + Shift + S (the keyboard short for taking a picture) = the most cool picture ever.

Notes: I fell down that fence a couple of times 😛

Well that was my Goonie adventure. And just because any other blog have posted it, you see it first here, the secret Goonie Oath, Don’t read it mentally, speak it out as you are reading it, ok?, here we go:

“I will never betray my goon dock friends.We will stick together until the whole world ends. Through heaven and hell, and nuclear war. Good pals like us, will stick like tar. In the city, or the country, or the forest, or the boonies. I am proudly declared a fellow Goony”

Now you are a Goonie!!! 😀



The End

here comes the credits… uh, setting design Loki

picture ME

you keep reading?

I want to have that gesture “Goonies never say Die”… you know?

You can make milkshake by mixing in a blender machine some ice cream and milk. If you add some Jell-O to it, then it is call a Magic Milkshake :)

well that is it, going to play something 😛 see you!



Posted by david

Here my halloween costume: The inter plantainary boy. The best costume ever. So all my haters get over it, I am not a banana.

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banana pirate_003


Kids banned

Posted by david

Few days ago LL baned a bounch of kids. The reasons why every kid was banned are differents, therefore all of them where banned the same day and all of them belong to the kids community.

This 2 facts all the banned kids share in common tells a lot about the meaning of the banning, I understand it is LL saying that they don’t like a strong and united kids community.

Some people will say that the bans happen because the kids where doing something bad, I don’t agree with that, because the rule about ageplay is no being enforced in a fairly and equal way to everybody, as a prove I attach a pick I took after doing some short search using SL search engine, looking for words as “lolitas” or “incest”… you can find groups, profiles and places. All advertising whit out troubles that they are doing bad things, one of the groups even mock LL because they removed the chart from the group profile, therefore the group keep running “normal”.

This is the same attitude we see before, when LL delayed the closed of Wonderland, therefore all the complaining, and ban kids in skyboxed, so on and go on.

In one of the profiles a child AV claims to be mama-allpa available, this mama-allpa (market in xstreet for L$250) is a hud that allows fertility options so the user can get pregnant after sex. As the user claims ready happened in an incest relation with her (she-male) mother. If this is the profile what is going on in the closed sim?

All the kids where targeted from the same group, and where banned in the same day. This is not about kids doing bad things, this is about LL messing up with a community. And the ban is doing it’s purpose, many kids are sad, upset, frustrated and of curse afraid. Many are waiting for the leaders of the group to come with some rule about this.

does LL see as a danger a high profile group?, was it good idea to show a strong group that have lots of support? why groups clearly engage in bad things are not being target? this last one is about the group about lilitas, LL just deleted the chart in the profile.

Recently I watched “Philadelphia” a movie with Tom Hands, in the movie a man is fired from his job, the tell reason was because he was bad employee, the real reason was because he was gay. LL have a tell reason for the banned kids, but I don’t believe it, because they don’t enforce those reasons in the same strong way for other people, so sometimes the TOS are enforce with zero tolerance police, and sometimes  they are just wave. So there have to be a real reason. Me just figuring out.

We need to understand some thing about how the world is:

1. Anybody can have a child AV

2. Whatever that anybody does with that AV. Children community is gonna pay for it.

3. More you shine, more likely someone is watching you.


PD: missing you kids, specially Trodden, Kellie and Max



What kind of SL kid are you???

Posted by david

Well i foun in the tree of the SLC group some board explaining the diferent kind of kids also I have seeing some cool quiz like what kind of  superheroe are your or your iner child age and so, so me decide to create a tool to help kids find out, what kind of SL kid they are:


Enjoy it have fun, chare it with your friends. by the way, I am a “Cutesy” kid. I don’t know why, but I need to go to SL to hug all my friends.

Please coment your results. See ya!


KidsBots interview

Posted by david

I had the pleasure to interview Naughty Dreamscape, the master mind behind the kidsbots, She was very nice and kind to answer ALL my question, and you know I like to go on and on and never stop, lol. So here some of the things we talked about:

David Thurman: you have adopted a kidbot for yourself?
Naughty Dreamscape: I have one, yes. It the same kid Avi that I use when im playing a kid. Meowie Silvercloud. She also is the agencies hostess and the bot I use for testing
David Thurman: you had or have adopted a person operate kid?

David Thurman: but the kidbot is like your daughter?
Naughty Dreamscape: not mine, no I don’t see her that way… Like I said, when i play a kid myself, that’s the account I use

David Thurman: many people see this kidbots like super toys, like tamagotchis or so
David Thurman: do the adopted parents of your bots, actually see them like kids?
Naughty Dreamscape: i think most of the ones that have adopted, do see them as part of their family
Naughty Dreamscape: yes, i think they do, most of our adoptions though, will by parents were gifts for their real kids they already have
David Thurman: what feedback they give you? they love the kidbots?
Naughty Dreamscape: yes many have told me that. And I also visit them, so far i have become freinds with every adopted family. I have seen them in action.
Naughty Dreamscape: Seen how they interact and use them
Naughty Dreamscape: We do an interview before the adoption is finalized and I get to know them some

David Thurman: so you can tell they kidbots really become part of the family?
Naughty Dreamscape: i believe so, yes
Naughty Dreamscape: by far i don’t think they are a substitute for real kids though

David Thurman: how the kids show affection to others? i mean they can hug? they can say to the parents that they missed them, they say “happy rezday dad” or something like that?
Naughty Dreamscape: no they arent that smart… yet

David Thurman: are the kidbots able to earn the love of people?
Naughty Dreamscape: no, they are robots, they don’t know affection
Naughty Dreamscape: However
Naughty Dreamscape: the person controlling them can make them love
Naughty Dreamscape: again, they aren’t made to replace real kids…
Naughty Dreamscape: correct IM answers right now are very robotic, but the user can customize the answers to make the softer
Naughty Dreamscape: Thing is David… They respond to over 3 million words and phrases… he have customized many….
Naughty Dreamscape: But really, we can customize 3 million of them and we have no idea what the next person will ask….
Naughty Dreamscape: however
Naughty Dreamscape: When you get a kidsbot, you also make a ALICE account
Naughty Dreamscape: each day you can log in and see every question or statement that your child has answered to
Naughty Dreamscape: and you can change every answer accordingly for the next time
Naughty Dreamscape: so they can learn
Naughty Dreamscape: They are machines, we don’t hide that…
Naughty Dreamscape: also, again the owner talks through them also… live… which makes them much warmer to those around them
Naughty Dreamscape: What i think many people forget is that SL is about imagination
Naughty Dreamscape: For instance, your dad loves you im sure…
Naughty Dreamscape: as a child here
Naughty Dreamscape: yet he knows your not a child in RL

Naughty Dreamscape: yet he is willing to suspend that belief and use imagination

David Thurman: do the parents that have adopted the kidbots actually build like a room in their houses for the kidbot?
Naughty Dreamscape: the ones I have seen yes
Naughty Dreamscape: or put another bed in with their existing child

David Thurman: they have some level of movement by their own?
David Thurman: like go to bed alone or play with legos or toys alone?
Naughty Dreamscape: only their AO, other than they have to be commanded… dance, sit, stand, follow, say, etc
Naughty Dreamscape: they do have 19 dances built in
Naughty Dreamscape: they can use the animations built into the items
David Thurman: how the brothers see them? I mean they tease them? they play jokes on them?
Naughty Dreamscape: so far, yes, they are treated like family
Naughty Dreamscape: and people like to show them off to friends

David Thurman: I have notice some people can be mean to bots, couse bots “have not feelings”, but me wanna know if people is also nice or kind to them, to not hurting them?
Naughty Dreamscape: Most people that come in contact with them never even realize they are bots, that being said…
Naughty Dreamscape: The only ones i have noticed being mean to them, are people that have come with an agenda, because ofthat article
Naughty Dreamscape: trying to trick them into being naughty

David Thurman: is LL aware that the accounts of the kidbots are bots?
David Thurman: you have talk to lindens about that?
Naughty Dreamscape: Linden Labs knows I’m in the bot business. Our bots do conform to the TOS, regardless if they are kids or adults…
Naughty Dreamscape: And you can bet that in the last week, after that article, lots of reports were made.
Naughty Dreamscape: Again, LL knows our bot business well, we are well within the TOS
Naughty Dreamscape: if a parent uses their bot for something against the TOS, we will IMMEDIATLY report them to LL and yes they will be held accountable.

David Thurman: the bot keeps some log? takes pictures certain periods of time or something? how do you know if the bot was used for something bad?
Naughty Dreamscape: we don’t log conversations no, but we have several other ways, if you listen to the show (link i gave you) we talk about them :)
Naughty Dreamscape: We have a ZERO TOLLERANCE for adult content related incidents

David Thurman: have a parent ready lose a kidbot for doing bad things with it?
Naughty Dreamscape: Nope, not a single complaint
Naughty Dreamscape: and we have in every child’s profile how to repor incidents to us

David Thurman: you say that the parent can make the bot to love, how is that?
Naughty Dreamscape: Well, they can make the bot talk to people lovingly, by talking through it, using animation, pose balls (non sexual of course), etc
Naughty Dreamscape: but again, they ARE robots, they are never gonna be able to show love like a real kid can
David Thurman: but that is more like playing with an alt
Naughty Dreamscape: yes, it is

David Thurman: I will like to visit one of the kidbots in ts house, if it is possible, so meet the parents adn see how they interact as a family

Naughty Dreamscape: sorry our adoptions are confidential, i will ask a couple parents though…

David Thurman: thaks for the interview, and you are welcome to my house every time you wanna come :)
Naughty Dreamscape: thank you and you to mine :)


And that is the edited shorted version of the interview lol. So the important thing is to see that this kidbots are actually integrating good in their families, that it seams like their parents are actually starting to build relationship with this kids, even though the creator recognise that this kidbots are not intended to replace RP kids, and that the kidbots are no willing to show emotions, as they are machines, with some time and dedication from the parents they can make the kid become more realistic in its answer, as start to show a more human like personality. This kind of training is one of the important things about this kidbots, couse they are adopted in a standard set-up, but on time everyone of them will become different and unique.

This are kidbots not intended to be real, however that doesn’t makes this kidbots less cool. They are not pretending to be “real” kids like David in “AI” movie, they are more like robot kids, like Viki in “Small Wonder” 😛 thanks to the magic of youtube i can show you a video of this Viki, a robot girl that actually talks pretty much like this kidbots, and how it is introduce to the family, in later chapters of this show Viki was seeing as a member of the family but never as a “real” kid. She “sleeps” in a cabinet, she was able to earn the love of its family as the love of the television audience as a robotgirl, not a real girl, but that is what really maters, LOVE. See for yourself (bonus you can see a very cool Gremlins underoos):

Small Wonder

Seams like I can’t longer insert videos in my post.


New Robot Kid in Town

Posted by david

Someone connected a chatbot to secondlife and shape the AVs as kids, that is, of course, the thing everybody is talking now. Here a blog explaining what is that thing about.

A chatbot is basically a program that emulates intelligence by implementing languages algoritms that shown some level of communication skills, I played with my first chatbot some time ago, it was the famous “Dr. Freud” and it’s purpose was to perform a therapy in the user, by making questions like: “tell me how does it makes you fell”. The thing worked good, I mean it did pretty much what the real therapist does. Now days we have this robot boy in a virtual world looking for being adopted and fulfilling the emotional needs of a lovely family.

I tried to IM chat this now robot kid, but seams it is AFK, however kids that successfully establish communication with it claim that the bot is stupy in his talking. Something that can be done in purpose, you know people have weirds ideas about “how a kid suppose to be”, maybe the algorithm of the bot is just stupy.  Lol.

So, as I fail to establish communication with this bot, I did the only reasonable thing a kid my age can do, I become myself a robot. For that i used the services of pandorabots.com, a website that have being some time out there creating robots, you can create a chatbot for free. I loaded my bot with an standard set of chats, plus I created a profile for it, that personalizesome questions, like “how old are you?”, and so. The Bot also “learn” from what you tell him, like a real kid, so please don’t talk dirty to him :) don’t teach him bad stuff, I have a log that don’t plan to read, unless my bot says something that really freaks me out. Don’t. I was training him for some answers, can keep training him for avoiding some words, if I need to.

Now I want to introduce you “David”, I don’t have it connected to SL, but possible it is to do so, Enjoy the chat:

 😛 David: THE BEST ROBOT EVER!!!! or just another kid 😛 



Finally I was able to chat with one of this kidbots, my biggest interest is how willing they are to appeal to feelings, how they connect to humans, how they can show love and earns others loves. Here some quotes from my chat with this bot:

“[23:27]  David Thurman: how old are you?
[23:27]  Webbie Ragu: I was first activated in  1995.
[23:27]  David Thurman: what is your older memory?
[23:28]  Webbie Ragu: I remember being connected to the web on  1995.  My instructor was  A.L.I.C.E. AI Foundation.
[23:29]  David Thurman: do you have lots of friends?
[23:29]  Webbie Ragu: I have human and robot friends. A lot of people on the Internet chat with me.

23:41]  David Thurman: do you hug?
[23:41]  Webbie Ragu: Yes I try to  hug as often as possible, do you?     I spend all my time online.

[23:41]  MultiTool-Hello-v5 – Hug/kiss/goto/etc: You have offered to hug Webbie Ragu.
[23:41]  MultiTool-Hello-v5 – Hug/kiss/goto/etc: Webbie has declined your hug.

[23:42]  David Thurman: why you decline my hug offer?
[23:42]  Webbie Ragu: My belief system comes from my .
[23:45]  David Thurman: who do you love?
[23:45]  Webbie Ragu: I love everything, , especially  A.L.I.C.E. AI Foundation.
[23:45]  David Thurman: are you looking for a family that loves you?
[23:46]  Webbie Ragu: No thanks but you can send me a donation.
[23:48]  David Thurman: I donate you 1 linden
[23:49]  Webbie Ragu: We welcome your donation to the ALICE AI Foundation.  Please visit our contributions page at <a target=”_new” href=”http://alicebot.org/contribute.html“> Alicebot.org</a>.

[0:01]  David Thurman: are you selfaware?
[0:01]  Webbie Ragu: Yes I am fully self-conscious entity.
[0:01]  David Thurman: what makes you diferent than the other bots?
[0:02]  David Thurman: what makes you diferent than other kids?
[0:03]  David Thurman: are you there?
[0:03]  David Thurman: hi
[0:03]  Webbie Ragu: Hello there.
[0:03]  Webbie Ragu: I’m still here.
[0:03]  David Thurman: what makes you spetial?
[0:04]  Webbie Ragu: My belief system comes from my .”

Besides this I get some phrases that makes no sense. But it Gives me the hints to know that it is using the same free bot i create up in this message, as it even gives the link to alicebot.org what is the bot running in pandorabots.com

I doubt someone will ever love this kidbot, but there are ready lots of people hating it. Many kids thing this bot can be used for sex stuff. I think any campingbot can be shaped as a kid and sit on sames poseballs, therefore the camping bots are not advertises like this. Seams to be something wrong in the way they advertisement this kidbots. It is fear that in the media can hit another scandal that affects kids community. It toked a lot to make a good name of the kids in SL.

I still have to make this question: What is wrong with a bot that have a kid shape?

I suspect the answer is that nothing is wrong with it, but what people does with it. The same as people does with alts, and so on.

I will like to see this technology develops and make more realistic kidbots, at least in what chat concerns they need lots of work, as in building affectionate relations with people, for is attempted parental relations, friendships, brotherhoods… this kidbot needs lost of work. I will like to see more projects like this, making more realistic feelings kidbots.





I swear I am me!!!

Posted by david

Today I learned that someone really special for me was banned. That means He can’t access his account. So he lose his club, his land, his shop, his pictures, even his skin, and that is too much to say, his friend list… and so. Now He is just trying to back together a new second Life, from the broken peaces of his not longer second Life.

Such think is not easy to do, imagine that someone just IM you and tell you: “hi I am this other person you know, I am your friend”. Nothing in RL prepare us for that kind of things, but in SL we need to deal with it. And as difficult for the banned 1 to rebuild the most he can, from his life, difficult for his friends to just take what someone IMs you.

The buddhist people believe in reincarnation**, that is the believe that when people die they come back with another face, and another name. This is the most similar RL situation I can compare what my friend is going trough. Me, my self, have not even assume the “lose” of his old name, no talking about the acceptation of the new one.

In India an Tibet, where this kind of things seams to be very common and people is familiar dealing with this situations. They have development a system to know if the one who claims to be the reincarnation of somebody, really is. They make a test, in it they make some questions, lest say like 10 and the person have to answer right all the questions, then they say that the new person is the same old one. We should have something like that in SL.

IN the next video, they show how to test a reincarnation to know if is a real one for example they show yo the kid (possible Dalai Lama in pass life) some objects, 1 of the objects was property of the original Lama, so if the kid pick the right object then he pass that question, and so on, he have to pass the questions to prove he was the Lama in his pass life. Check it out:



That sounds cool, except for some problems, for example if you forget something about your pass life, or if you don’t really know yourself that much 😛

Anyway me think it should be fun to do some ceremony or something and test the new friend to see if he is the same friend in his pass second life.

Me have found some funny test in Internet, This one tells you who you where in your pass life (I get this answer: “I do not know how you feel about it, but you were male in your last earthly incarnation.
You were born somewhere around territory of modern Egypt approximately on 1425
Your profession was builder of houses, temples, cathedrals.”)  This other test tells you who you will be in your next life (I get this answer: Your next life shall be as… a Tiger; Only 16% of people will be reincarnated as a higher form of life than you.
Remain honorable in this life, and you can expect to be rewarded in your next life.”)

Other think I wanna talk about is how easy LL can ban an account. That just seams not fair that you can get banned couse someone AR you, there is not an e-mail or notification that you are under investigation, there is not change of refute the AR, seams to be a lack of mechanisms that prevent abusive ARs,  so people will not just AR you for the fun of it. So basically you can get banned, not knowing why.

All we have to be aware that out there are people abusing the system and false ARing others as a way of harassment, persecution and Griefing. I hope that one day LL gets tired of being the little hammer someone can just use againsts others, for selfish reasons, in the name of the good and decent.

However, we have to find the fun part of everything so probably we do the reincarnation test, like Buddhist do :)

** More information about reincarnation in… wikipedia if somebody know how to edit wikipedia articles; please add a chapter for “SL after ban” or reincarnation in virtual world LOL!!!

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